Crown Point B-17
|Name||Crown Point B-17|
|CAP data||unk,unk,unk,403701,1054034, four-engine aircraft between Brown's Reservoir and Crown Point 4 NW Comanche Peak, intact|
|GPS coords||40 36' 43.9" N 105 37' 57.8" W NEW, BETTER!|
|GPS decimal||40.61219 105.63272 NEW, BETTER!|
|UTM||13T 0446474, 4495689 NEW, BETTER!|
|Datum used||NAD 27|
June 13, 1944
Serial # 42-30891
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|Wreck site looking NE.|
The wreck cause: : Wrong position estimation during night navigation training flight. Flight was at 10,000 in terrain up to over 13,000.
Survivors: Cpl. LeRoy Faigin, Cleveland, OH
Cpl Lester Place, Corpus Christi, TX
Cpl. Max Weiner, Philadelphia, PA.
Sgt Donald E. Jacobs, Philadelphia, PA
Sgt. David Phillips, New York
2nd Lt. Harold Eisele, Rochester, NY
Casualties: 2nd Lt. Drury Holt, Columbia, S.C.
2nd Lt. Doyle J. Hall, Clinton, S.C.
Cpl. Daniel Conway, Troy, NY
FO Timothy O. Hurst, Oklahoma City, OK
Site Description:. On a rock slope facing north on a knoll just east of the Flowers Trail. Altitude is about 10,750' This wreck was demolished by the Army with dynamite 6 weeks after the wreck. Lots of small pieces. Engines, gear, wingtips and the top turret cage survive. All-day round-trip hike. Plan for 3 hours walking each way.
Best route :There are several different ways to begin the hike to this wreck. All have their benefits and drawbacks. The simplest way is still to park at the Browns Lake trailhead and hike the Browns Lake trail until it intersects with the Flowers Trail and then hike to the saddle where the snow survey marker is present (paint is badly faded and it's real hard to see and there are several in the area)then bushwhack about 100 yards to the site. When following GPS you would find the arrow pointing perpendicular to the trail at an area that fits the description of a "saddle." That is, there is a flat spot in the trees where the land slopes upwards both east and west. If you drop downhill perhaps 100' on the trail before leaving the trail to go east, you'll find a hint of a trail to the wreck marked by cairns that traverses to the crash site and arrives at it from slightly below. I had not seen this trail before 2001.
Trips to find the Crown Point B-17 (3 pictures)
Note that the fascinating story of this wreck and its survivors are told in Troy Turner's book, COLORADO'S LOST SQUADRON listed in the references section of the front page.
Last Modified: 1/1/2008